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How Big Spring Spirits Built A Six-Story Hangout
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A six-story building, a cigar lounge, a tasting room, and a guy everyone keeps calling Mario because he’s a plumber with a legendary mustache. That’s the scene as we sit down with Rick “Mon Jovi” and unpack how a Pittsburgh distillery and entertainment spot gets built from an idea into a place people actually show up for. The laughs come fast, but the business story underneath it is the real hook.
We talk Big Spring Spirits and the bigger vision: a multi-use venue with events, live music, and spaces designed for staying awhile. Rick explains how he got pulled into the investment, why the “spirits” side mattered first, and how the building becomes a home base to grow the brand. If you’re into Pittsburgh nightlife, craft distilleries, or local entrepreneurship, you’ll hear how community and experience can be as important as the bottle itself.
Then we get personal about long-term small business grit. Rick breaks down starting a commercial plumbing company at 21, building credibility when you’re young, and why the trades can be the most underrated form of job security. We also hit Pittsburgh pride, family culture, networking habits, cigar talk, and a surprisingly practical point about what makes craft vodka and gin taste smooth: the water source.
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Welcome And Crowd Energy
SPEAKER_01I don't even need a way to do that. You just got to meet them. Turn those cameras around. Show how many people are here to see. Welcome to Hold My Cutter. We're here with my new friend. What's your name again? Rick Monjovi. Mon Jovi? Like Bon Jovi, but Mon Jovi. Original Bon Jovi and Meatball. You remember him from the last episode or a couple episodes back? He choked on the meatball. He's gluten-free. Let's run right into this. We're here, both of you guys, art owners of this beautiful place, the distillery, right? I'm not sure that's true yet. But you are here all the time. So I think you're like the guy on the couch from Half-Baked. He's a cigar guy. He's a cigar guy, but you're not. I'm not a cigar guy. All right, what are you then? You're here. This is the drawing room.
SPEAKER_00I'm here with my friends. All three of my friends. But you just said there was a lot of them. Well, they all went to the bathroom. I see you're all walking in late. They all turned around and walking out the other side.
The Vision For A Multi-Use Venue
SPEAKER_01All right. So tell me, how did how did how did you come up with this? How did you get involved with this place? Mr.
SPEAKER_00Rick Bon Jovi. Involved with it about five, six years ago. Um friends of mine came up to me when they're not going to invest into this uh project over in a sassy bar. So they had a concept of building this building, six-story building, and having a multi-use uh facility with a rooftop bar, an event center, a um cigar bar, which that's where we're in now. And we have a tasting room, and we're looking to maybe put a restaurant and uh some live music on the second floor. Entertainment this weekend, this Saturday. We got uh Chris Higby band coming in, country band. Not Bon Jovi, not yet. Bon Jovi. That's maybe next time. Next time, okay. Yeah, but uh he'll be here on Saturday, um uh at seven o'clock to perform uh you know, perform uh country music. I love it. You gotta wear your hat, you gotta dress in your uh your cowboy attire.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, do you have that? Oh, yeah, yeah, buckle. Rick, you gotta tell him the song you're gonna sing too. You're gonna be up.
SPEAKER_00And he will be playing wagon wheel, and I will be up there probably with him singing wagon.
SPEAKER_01You promise?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he'll probably so you guys sing her. I can't sing.
SPEAKER_01But why wagon wheel?
SPEAKER_00Why it's my favorite song, Darius Rucker.
SPEAKER_01But how did that come to be?
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's about a wagon wheel. I just love Darius Rutgers Wagon. I love it. Here comes the food now. See, here comes more of the the people.
SPEAKER_01That's why they actually told us to pull you away because you usually eat all the food. I know. That's like I know. I don't want the beat, I don't want to eat it all. So if you're an investor, obviously you've done well in life because they don't just ask anybody to be an investor. And by the way, will you please show your shoes? No, not not you. Put those down, those are awful. Yeah, they're comfortable. But then I love the matchy matchy. Good for you. Got style, but they're not those.
SPEAKER_00What about the Steeler? That's that.
SPEAKER_01We're in we're in baseball season, but I I'm a huge Steeler fan now. Oh, right. I adopted it this past, I guess it was last year. I was like, you know what? I need I need to dig in. Now went in, went right in the middle of all the answers. I'm like, I'm all in with these people. This is amazing. All in. Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody loves sports better than Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_00Let me ask you some questions.
Building A Plumbing Business From 21
SPEAKER_01Hold on. No, sir. Let me just wow, yes, in a minute. You can't we'll flip sheets. But first, what do you do?
SPEAKER_00Because obviously I'm a plumbing contractor. We do plumbing, uh commercial plumbing, and we sound like a shitty job. It is a shitty job. It's been shitty, but it's been it's been shitty for 43 years.
SPEAKER_01But it's been well and it's consistent, it's not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, as long as people are shitting, we're there. Yeah, we're there. Yeah, so if they put shitting, then we're out of business. I don't know if that's possible. I don't think that could ever happen. That'd be a bad thing for everybody. Job security.
SPEAKER_01It is how do you I don't think anybody goes at five, like, you know what? I want to be a plumber. Yeah, you wake up one day and go, you know what?
SPEAKER_00I think I'm gonna get in the shit business. That's what it is.
SPEAKER_01Or did you say that seems like there's some liquid gold there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's a train. It is, don't you? You know, so how did you start?
SPEAKER_01How did you start a business and where is it today? I was 21.
SPEAKER_00What's it called, by the way? Mon Jovian Sun Plumbing.
SPEAKER_01So you have a son?
SPEAKER_00I have two sons. So you don't like one son? Two sons and a daughter.
SPEAKER_01Well, you don't like one son and a daughter. Why who don't have put their daughter in a business?
SPEAKER_00I was 21 years old. Uh-huh. I uh decided I want to start my own business. So at 21 years old, people aren't gonna realize I'm too young to be bidding on projects. At 21 years old, you just you know but your so you grew the mustache. Yeah, no, I had that when I was like six. So everybody always thought you're 21. So, anyways, um I decided to start my own business, so I called it Mon Jovian son. I was never I wasn't married yet, wasn't even dated. So you're speaking the son into existence later on. So I end up uh starting a business two years later, got married, had a first son, a couple years later, had a second son, couple years after that, had a daughter.
SPEAKER_01We know who's the favorite, folks.
SPEAKER_00So now the daughter. Yeah, the daughter's a favorite. Yeah, yeah. It's to the point where you know, the son, as he grew up, came into the business, liked it. The other boy came in, gave it a shot, liked it. So now, 43 years later, it's a little hard to change the put an S on the name of your company, change all your trucks.
SPEAKER_01It kind of gives you the power too, because you get to picture which son you actually like that day. There you go.
SPEAKER_00So one day you like this one, the next day you like that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're like, oh no, no, that's not the son it's named after, right? Right? Yeah, it messes up.
SPEAKER_00Are you the son or yeah, which son's the son? You know, so for one meeting, the son's like, I'm the son. The other boy's at another meeting goes, I'm the son. Yeah, the daughter just reached the daughter, yeah. The daughter came in years later, and now she now should be Mon Jovi's son and sons and daughter. No, she just reached the she's behind the scenes. Yeah, she she's the uh that's why she's your favorite.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_01So you grew the mustache at six, maybe the earliest ever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's uh so we gotta make a deal with it, though. Oh, you and your bets. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Let's go.
SPEAKER_00We gotta make a bet to shave the mustache. You know what? People did try to do that. My friends tried to do that. Would it even go away? I never took it off. Oh, it'd be back in like 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like I think you'd be like one of those Viking where they just think about it and it pops up.
SPEAKER_00It just won't be me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's really like a mustache has to fit and it fits. Hey, I'm in the plumbing business. Some people think I'm the Mario brother. I wasn't gonna bring it up, but you look like Mario. I know there's no doubt. People say that, so that's why I got the money. And like I love Mario growing up. So, like when I saw you, I was like, who wants to talk? I was like, Yeah, but he's a plumber. Yeah, I know. I like that, and he's the main character. That's right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, Luigi, I don't like the money that Mario Brothers made, but I mean it's
Italian Family Traditions And Pittsburgh Life
SPEAKER_00who does, right? Right? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you gotta find a princess, and you did. That's right. Yeah, so tell me a little bit more about your family.
SPEAKER_00So we're an Italian family. Couldn't have imagined that. I'm Jovi. Yeah, no, no, so your wife can cook.
SPEAKER_01Was she Italian?
SPEAKER_00No, uh oh.
SPEAKER_01But she took in the the cooking, she knows how to cook.
SPEAKER_00Okay, all right, second part.
SPEAKER_01But not as second uh second so the better one, yeah. Okay, yeah, all right, is which I don't watch what I said. Uh who's who's the mom of the children?
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, nice, okay, nice. So um we still have Sunday dinners once in a while. I love that Monday, but Sunday gravy. No, no, no, no, it's how it have to be marinara. Gravy is just for people in Jersey. They say gravy. When you put sauce, when you have red sauce, it's soft. No, no, gravy's white. No, no, brown and white. Gravy's brown.
SPEAKER_01Okay. He's southern. I'm southern. They don't know. We don't know how to cook gravy. Yeah, you guys, you marinate.
SPEAKER_00What's your last name?
SPEAKER_01McHenry, I'm Irish, I think. I'm a mutt. I was born black. From your mother's side. Huh? From your mother's side. My mom didn't know her family. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00It could be anything. So are you Italian?
SPEAKER_01I could be. Oh I I'm I'm more of like the mutt. Oh you know, like you you throw my DNA in there, it just pops up like question mark, question mark, question mark. Could be all. So I tell people I was born a brother. Like my man swing over there. Swing, how you doing, swing? Yeah. He said swing. Swing, swing. Swing, like a baseball bat swing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00What I said or not. I no, not even close, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_01So what's the bet? Hold on, what's the bet? Yeah, you're drinking water.
SPEAKER_00We gotta make a bet for the mustache being shit. What?
SPEAKER_01I I would even take what if he dyed his mustache.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't have been in the middle of us too. That's one thing.
SPEAKER_00True. So, what is the bet? Will you shave it off if you lose the bet? So, no, you don't get the bet. What about dyeing it? I'm 60 some years old.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you could die it. Yeah. Like bond? No, he's not doing it. Oh, you better not die.
SPEAKER_00Just let it go.
SPEAKER_01So you're born and bred in Pittsburgh. So this podcast is obviously it's called Hold My Cutter, right? So obviously you smoke a cigar and and baseball, cut fastball. So we we kind of tie that in. So we always try to tie in Pittsburgh in sports. Obviously, you're a fan. Were you born here? Yeah. So you're a Italian. What type of West Penn Hospital? Oh, okay. I actually spent some time there recently in the burn unit. It was awful. Um, so hopefully you had a better experience. If you remember cut, huh? You had a paper cut. I had a paper cut and I freaked out. So yeah. Um so born here, just talk about your childhood because you probably went through, I'm guessing you're what, like 32, 34. You've been through a couple generations, times two. Like 10 years? What?
SPEAKER_00What did you say?
SPEAKER_01No, just talk about living in Pittsburgh and like how much it's grown and what you like about it. What made you stay here? Low question. Don't get it wrong.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I like to have been in Florida, but um you know, born and raised. We're done. Well I love Pittsburgh. I'm born and raised here in the Crafton Ingram area of Pittsburgh, if you guys know where that's at. Um all my life in that west west part of Pittsburgh by the airport, and um started my business at 21 years old and still involved with my business and like the So you're 63 if I'm if I'm doing my math right.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you said 43 years, so I was close.
SPEAKER_00Yes. You look good. I'll be 65 in June. You look good, but um in Pittsburgh, now the whole area of Pittsburgh, work in the whole area of Pittsburgh. Um great people compared to other cities and stuff like that. And I just I love Pittsburgh in the summertime. Wintertime, I don't care 64.
SPEAKER_0164 dude looks good, right? Yeah, great. He holds the mustache great too. He keeps saying that, yeah. A lot of work, a lot of work to do.
Networking Habits And Cigar Talk
SPEAKER_01So, John, is there is there a story? Because when I come up to you, I'm like, hey, other podcast went a little long. Who who can we talk to? He immediately pointed to Mario. I mean, what do you got?
SPEAKER_00He's good for the building, he's a character, he brings people here all the time. We have fun. That's what it's all about. It's like that community, a lot of like the network. I like media, all that whole thing.
SPEAKER_01You guys both seem like you're great at networking. It's something that like I've just gotten into. I played baseball, didn't really even think about it, get out of baseball, and I was like, oh my gosh, I have a huge network, and people are always trying to pull me to try to use it. I'm like, maybe I should start trying to use it, and I've really enjoyed to get new people. How did you guys come to that? I think that's something I've learned a lot from some Yenzers because you guys are great at it. You guys seem to have a feel of people.
SPEAKER_00Did that just come naturally, or is that something that you grew up with your grew up grew up with that? Yeah, the Italian family, they're always huggers and and and and you didn't hug me when we met. Yeah, I know. I just you just grabbed me and brought me over, and you know, I saw him. You're right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's okay.
SPEAKER_00I'll do it. Do that, do that. All I know is I'm sitting there. Networking's going well.
SPEAKER_01I just grabbed people, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I didn't know you either. It's the best part.
SPEAKER_01Now we do. I'm Michael. Good to meet you. Yeah, nice to meet you, Rick.
SPEAKER_00Wait, wait, I thought there was a hug.
SPEAKER_01That's later. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's off camera. Yeah, you're loud to ask questions for sure. Yeah. We need two books and cigars though. What are you smoking right now? This is a Sperlingo. Only two people in say it slower. Sperlingo. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Only two people in the U.S. have these now. Us in the vault. Another great shot. Partner with them. Great. What makes that special? Well, we were the first ones to get in the US. It's a very unique car Dominican Republic.
SPEAKER_01Love the Dominican Republic. So it's been really a great seller for us.
SPEAKER_00Um, everyone who tries it comes back more. And you can see this being a very big brand down there. So we were the first to bring in the US.
SPEAKER_01I love that. I love that. And for all you folks, I'm smoking the fat bottom bedding. It's got this sweet aroma taste. It's got a little sugar on the tip, too. It's outstanding to try it. You don't smoke cigars. What is your vice of saying? Meatballs, what do you what do you like? Oh man. Do you like do you like drinks? Do you like food? Like tummy. I like pinzas. I like bostas. You can't fall into the norm that far. You're full-blooded Italian. We get it. What else do you like? I don't like potatoes.
SPEAKER_00I'm not a potato guy. Yeah. I'm a Italian.
SPEAKER_01You like pierogies?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'll eat them, but not, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you want to live in Florida, you don't like pierogies? What do you like about Pittsburgh?
SPEAKER_00I like the some of the uh Haytalian restaurants. Yeah. What's your favorite? Give them a shout out. Warren Dale there. Favorite dish. Uh raviolins.
SPEAKER_01Raviolan? Raviolan's. Okay, I like that. I like that. So big sports guy. No. Well, he's really throwing through the carbon.
SPEAKER_00Two things just crushing you. Man's wearing a steeler jacket. I know. I'd like to participate, but I'm not a big I mean I like the steeler.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you like the network? You like making money. Let's be honest. Yeah. All right. Do you like to travel?
SPEAKER_00I travel. Yeah, I go to Florida. I have a place in Florida.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I go down there.
SPEAKER_01Where's your place in Florida?
SPEAKER_00Uh Benita Springs, which is in uh Fort Myers. On there in the wintertime for seven to ten days. And then I come back and work, and then I go back down.
SPEAKER_01So you're like a part snowbird.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't live down. Yeah. Like I'm going down here in this month for eight days, I'll come back, and then I won't come back, I won't go back to Florida until until October. Okay. But then I go out and have a place to carne on the outlake up in Neary. Go up there summertime on a weekend. That's my summer place.
SPEAKER_01So since you just like to network, did you ever watch the games?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I I I used to belong, I used to got tickets to the school. Used to? What happened? Got rid of them years ago because they got uh we were you know uh got all the game books. That was really PC.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and you wanted a condo in Florida.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'd rather have the Florida than 25,000 to go to have a suite.
SPEAKER_01I like to lay it out. So real quick, what what made you say yes
Why The Spirits Stand Out
SPEAKER_01to invest into this? Was it just I mean, please don't let make it be I had extra capital?
SPEAKER_00No, what I like is um the spirits that we have. Uh I got involved with the spirits of ghost spirits or drinks. The spirits that we make, the vodkas, the he don't get it, does he?
SPEAKER_01Huh? I've never I'm from Tennessee. That's called bourbon and whiskey and moonshine.
SPEAKER_00We have gins.
SPEAKER_01But spirits are ghosts.
SPEAKER_00Ghosts?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a spirit.
SPEAKER_00Oh, oh great. You're a little slow with it.
SPEAKER_01It's okay. No, no, no. I just I'm having fun with you. It's the straight bod commentary. Yeah, that's that's that's how we do it.
SPEAKER_00So you thought that was water.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. But I I I generally I've I have some buddies that are in the industry. I know nothing about it. So, like, how did you even like you said you got involved because of spirits? Spirits, as I just learned, are not goats, they're drinks. So talk about your spirits that are drinks.
SPEAKER_00You asked me how I got involved. I got involved through a buddy of mine that he met the original owner that developed Big Spring Spirits. Okay. And oh that's what it's called. Which his name was Kevin Lloyd. And he told he already had the business before we got involved. And he wanted to grow the company beggar. So when he met the other partners that are involved with this whole uh facility, they they all invest, we all invested because of the spirit side. Then the building was something we purchased to build to sell our spirits out of and also have a facility that we can do multiple.
SPEAKER_01The more you say it, the more I like it. I do. So we're you had like I feel like you have to have like a really, really great understanding of power to even be able to understand because like I've gone to tastings and I don't get it sometimes. So like what makes each and everyone different, especially your offs?
SPEAKER_00I don't I don't drink water. I'll tell you one of the big big pluses to the big spring. Yeah, it's the water source. From the water water source up in up in Oak they use the big spring source of water. It's the one the mountainous waters there is that's what makes water smooth special. That's really you add water to to all the elements. Yeah, that's how you like yeah, that's how you make it cut it down. Yeah, and I think our water is it's smooth, it's from the creeks and uh of the springs, and um that's what that probably is. Let me explain. Pittsburgh is a creek.
SPEAKER_01I learned that one that's what the spirits threw me off. I wasn't making like fun. I was like spirits, because like I don't I'm moved here three years ago. I'm from Tennessee, but like we we have our own problem, right? Like I call myself a Yalzer, you know, part Tennessee, part Pittsburgh, but yeah, like a crick, I didn't know. I was like, no, my neck is fine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But now I understand that's actually a stream of water. That's where you guys get your water from a crick. Right. Yeah, so that is special.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's we haven't tried the ripple.
SPEAKER_01I'm I'm I'm listening.
SPEAKER_00We're actually not talking about it.
SPEAKER_01I'm I'm I would think that that that's a proof
Final Laughs And Sign-Off
SPEAKER_01we can't talk about it. Yeah, yeah. Mario, thank you.